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Cabinet Tea Set with no pottery mark apart from "Foreign"

by Joanna
(Peterborough)

Cabinet Tea Set with no pottery marker apart from

Cabinet Tea Set with no pottery mark apart from

Cabinet Tea Set up with no pottery mark apart from

Cabinet Tea Set with no pottery marking autonomously from "FOREIGN":- Hi to everyone at this fabulous website, please help...... My mum gave me the coffee gear up that my dad had bought her at the end of the sixties beginning of the seventies, and information technology spent years and years being lovingly cared for in my mums drinking glass cabinet (the aforementioned glass cabinet that i think everyone'southward mum had). My mum and dad divorced many years ago (28)and and then information technology spent it'southward life in my mums garage, during a clear out she asked me if i would similar to have it, i took from my mum but i idea i could maybe notice out a chip more than almost it.

I have the coffee pot and half dozen small cups and six small saucers my mum does non think that she had the sugar bowl or milk jug.

My mum can't recollect where my dad bought information technology from and we tin can't even guarantee that it was in this land every bit my Dad was a long distance lorry driver and travelled everywhere from Germany and Poland to Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

I saw the other postal service from the guy with the Foreign mark but my java set up is so different to his that i was intrigued.

I would be extremely grateful if you could shed any lite on where this may accept come from, i am not certain if it is os china, porcelain or even if the gold ornament is actually golden.

It would be wonderful to observe out if information technology was actually worth anything then i could treat my mum, as my dad was a total pig to her for many years it would exist keen to remember that he could cause her a pocket-size scrap of happiness...

Please help..

many thank you

Joanna

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Peter (admin) says:-

Hi Joanne

Thank you for your complement about the website and your touching story.

I don't think these sets are worth all that much - peradventure the cost of a nice meal out, but I am no expert on values, and you really need an skillful assessment. Put information technology this way, this is a nice fix, but non Meissen.

Withal, I think you take peradventure helped with a inkling to some other long-continuing query (here Gold Crown Pottery Marking with no other letters or devices).

The items are not the same blueprint nor do they have the same mark, merely somehow they look similar in style and make. The clue is the sheen of the glaze which has a kind of lustre and the branch decoration details. Below is a particular from that page compared with this page:

On that page, I go on to conclude that these sets are probable from a High german maker nether the name of the Gräfenthal group operating behind the Fe Curtain, and the date is after 1972. Go to the folio for further explanation.

The gear up shown on that thread take a unmarried gold crown marker and nothing else to give whatsoever clues equally to their origins. Significantly, Somer, the posts author, shares with u.s.a. a written report written by an expert who says this is German or Austrian cabinet ware.

I believe your ready to be from the same maker from the

same 'cold war' menstruum - likely made in the 1970's.

So the question is - why does the marking 'foreign' appear on this set, but a unlike gold crown mark on like produce from the same maker?

Here'due south the caption:

A 'foreign' pottery mark on a ceramic item, unfortunately gives little, if any, indication of the country of origin or appointment of industry, despite what other online sources may say.

So information technology'south a case of narrowing downward the various possibilities of what maker might take used that type of marking and then taking a careful look at the brand, quality and decoration style of the peice in question so hazzarding a gauge of the origin.

Initially, in the belatedly 19th Century, state of origin laws (aka C.O.O.Fifty.) were introduced in both the Uk and US, as a response to the rise and strength, in particular, of German export industrialisation and protectionism. In the Usa, the human activity was called the 1890 The McKinley Tariff Pecker, and in the United kingdom information technology was the 1897 British Merchandise Marks Act.

Breifly, at starting time, earlier the US act was revised, imported goods were simply marked 'foreign' in some cases, only later that, ceramic items should, in theory, have had the country of origin conspicuously marked. Yet, this is non an accurate dating machinery for the use of the word strange on china crockery, considering the foreign marking was used adequately extensively in the post-obit types of settings:

- During the cold war (mail WW2), the USSR (including countries inside the Soviet block like E Germany) were reported to have exported ceramic goods to the United states & United kingdom using the word 'foreign'.

- German factories from the early on to mid 20th century are too said to have used the foreign postage stamp for export to countries similar Republic of hungary or Bulgaria. Other sources advise the contrary, that during this period, if the figurines were exported from Germany to the Uk, they had the 'foreign' mark, but the "GERMANY" postage was used for elsewhere.

- The Chikaramachi co-operative of Japanese makers Noritake (and peradventure other factories) are reported by Gothborg.com to have used a 'foreign' pottery marking from about 1928 to 1946 for porcelain intended for the Great britain market, instead of the usual 'Fabricated In Nippon' or other more than usual marks.

- The interchange of goods betwixt the Usa and Uk may have seen each others export goods marked as 'strange' during the early to mid 20th century, rather than having the full state of origin.

So, we accept to be careful of ascribing a fixed dating chronology to the 'foreign' backstamp.

In your case, what is my guess equally to origin?

I believe these may well be, as the expert stated, a German chiffonier ready, likely from USSR/East Germany production (specifically probable the Grafenthal group) which was exported to i of the European countries your father visited, and so having the 'foreign' backtamp rather than the gold crown mark as seen on items exported to the Uk or United states of america.

This would explain why some of these types of very similar sets have differing pottery marks. Simply, they were made for different destination markets which had dissimilar C.O.O.L. labeling requirement.

Hopefully, that's of some help, I liked your submission very much, so cheers.

Best regards

Peter (admin)

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